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 Post subject: Texas Hide Hunters 1870's
PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:57 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Texas Hide Hunters 1870's
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On viewer's left: John Logan, center Emil Oberwetter, and right Douglas the dog.

Taken January or February or so, 1874, by George Robertson, photographer. Likely after passing through Buffalo Gap, about 18 miles south of modern Abilene, Texas after leaving from Austin.

Another in the series ahows a camp with hides, as well as buffalo tongues drying on racks.

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 Post subject: Re: Texas Hide Hunters 1870's
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Moby Mick wrote:
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On viewer's left: John Logan, center Emil Oberwetter, and right Douglas the dog.

Taken January or February or so, 1874, by George Robertson, photographer. Likely after passing through Buffalo Gap, about 18 miles south of modern Abilene, Texas after leaving from Austin.

Another in the series ahows a camp with hides, as well as buffalo tongues drying on racks.

Mick


Thanks for the identifications. What's your documentation?

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 Post subject: Re: Texas Hide Hunters 1870's
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The original stereoscopic card images are in the Geoerge Robertson Collection, Texas State Library and Archive, Austin, TX).

They pop up here and there. One of the easist to find is, used to be.. Charles M. Robinson III's "The Buffalo Hunters," State House Press, Abilene, TX, 1995.

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 Post subject: Re: Texas Hide Hunters 1870's
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Moby Mick wrote:
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The original stereoscopic card images are in the Geoerge Robertson Collection, Texas State Library and Archive, Austin, TX).

They pop up here and there. One of the easist to find is, used to be.. Charles M. Robinson III's "The Buffalo Hunters," State House Press, Abilene, TX, 1995.

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They are also in Buffalo Guns and Barbed Wire, published by Texas Tech Press in 1991. It's a combination of two previously published works by frontier journalist Don Hampton Biggers from 1901 and 1902. The original images are worth the trip to Austin to see.

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 Post subject: Re: Texas Hide Hunters 1870's
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Can anyone tell what kind of rifle that is? At first I thought it was a Sharps carbine but now I'm not so sure it isn't a Spencer?


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 Post subject: Re: Texas Hide Hunters 1870's
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It is a low resolution grainy copy of a copy of a... :)

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What Ii think I "see," IMHO is a New Model 1869 Carbine, the civilian version with a longer 26 inch barrel judging by the proportions but not taking caliphers to the image to be sure. They came in .40-70, .45-70, and .50-70.

There is only on band, and the barrel is too long for the standard military carbine.

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I give up! Arrrrgggg.

I have Photoshopped, and Photobucketed this image as an enalrgement eight (8) times, and it still appears here small!

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 Post subject: Re: Texas Hide Hunters 1870's
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Mick, I think it is a converted carbine fit with a "commercial carbine" length barrel. I have had several of them in my ancient past. One was marked "Freund & Bro" and was in 50 70. Another one in 40 70 SBN

I believe if you look up the "Boker Contract" you will find he wanted 26 inch carbine barrels on some of his conversions done by Sharps. I may be wrong, These "facts"?? are from memory ( for what my memory is anymore)


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 Post subject: Re: Texas Hide Hunters 1870's
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Ye be right.

It could be a converted percussion rifle or carbine, say a NM 1863 Rifle or NM 1863 Carbine as well. The image is just to poor to dissect 100%.

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 Post subject: Re: Texas Hide Hunters 1870's
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it has a sling bar and ring


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