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 Post subject: Re: The First Dragoon Expedition of 1834
PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 7:22 pm 
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Mule Man wrote:
Well...I wrote a long reply, but lost my internet connection......anyway...I suspect you're correct on the heart. #19 probably was a designated number for the tack but it may have also been the horse's designation......allowing that though the trooper may have named his persona mount, doubtful the Army did. To my knowledge no one makes a reproduction like the one you found.....too bad though .....to make it a period correct martingale for an enlisted man. I recently had a saddle made...haven't received it yet but had the choice of three different hearts for a martingale.....but I don't remember which one I chose.

I hope to get more information on the '33 and can find a maker...

Any idea the year of production?


It's so rare that collectors have never seen one before. Hard to put a date on it but based on everything else found in that camp I would guess 1846-48.


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 Post subject: Re: The First Dragoon Expedition of 1834
PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 8:10 pm 
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Was this a Ft Scott dig?

When I was doing '46 dragoon impression, there was so little information and even less reproduction equipment. No one was advertising for Mexican War clothing...even Jarnigans wasn't quite yet ready to take the leap into the Mexican War era. There was a fellow in Grand Junction Colorado who owned the Quartermaster "something"...anyway he was the only purveyor of early pre-39 dragoon equipment and Mexican War era military. I have a '40 "Wrist Breaker" saber that Bill had a India maker build up a prototype which in the end I bought with a full buff saber belt and "Turkish Knot". If I remember correctly Doug Kidd built my '46 Grimsley and I bought an original Hall carbine from a collector in Denver. I stumbled across a '36 Johnson pistol at a gun shop in Denver...so I ended up fairly complete in my impression....all of it is gone now except for my wheel hat and my great coat......and I still have the saber but I plan on cleaning it up and trying to sell it sometime soon. :D

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 Post subject: Re: The First Dragoon Expedition of 1834
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Mule Man wrote:
Was this a Ft Scott dig?

When I was doing '46 dragoon impression, there was so little information and even less reproduction equipment. No one was advertising for Mexican War clothing...even Jarnigans wasn't quite yet ready to take the leap into the Mexican War era. There was a fellow in Grand Junction Colorado who owned the Quartermaster "something"...anyway he was the only purveyor of early pre-39 dragoon equipment and Mexican War era military. I have a '40 "Wrist Breaker" saber that Bill had a India maker build up a prototype which in the end I bought with a full buff saber belt and "Turkish Knot". If I remember correctly Doug Kidd built my '46 Grimsley and I bought an original Hall carbine from a collector in Denver. I stumbled across a '36 Johnson pistol at a gun shop in Denver...so I ended up fairly complete in my impression....all of it is gone now except for my wheel hat and my great coat......and I still have the saber but I plan on cleaning it up and trying to sell it sometime soon. :D


This was dug west of Ft. Leavenworth Kansas. I also have been looking to acquire a complete U.S 1st Dragoon uniform/accountrements to wear for demonstrating purposes while giving presentations to historical organizations. This would greatly enhance the many artifacts I have found over the years. :D


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 Post subject: Re: The First Dragoon Expedition of 1834
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All I have left of my 1846 Dragoon era stuff is saber, belt/sling, carbine sling and '41 cartridge box......if you're interested. I do have a pair of new Kersey blue trousers without stripes that are about a 36' waist as well.

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 Post subject: Re: The First Dragoon Expedition of 1834
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Thank you Mule Man for the offer, let me know condition ect...and how much and I will get back with you.


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