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 Post subject: July 4th
PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:21 pm 
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Happy Independence Day!........It was not until the mid-"Victorian" era that Christmas became the most celebrated holiday in America. For the first 100 years it was "Independence Day"...........

In the midst of all the frivolity today....remember where we came from....and where we will go if we ever forget it!

Have a blessed remembrance!

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 Post subject: Re: July 4th
PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:43 pm 
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Thankful to be an American. Happy 4'th to you Doug, and everyone else here on the board.


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 Post subject: Re: July 4th
PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:38 pm 
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Thanx gentleman....Happy 4th to you and to all others


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 Post subject: Re: July 4th
PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:58 am 
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How d' ye!

The Declaration had been voted on on July 1st by a Committee of the Whole, with 9 votes for, 2 votes against from Penn. and South Carolina, one abstention by New York who claimed they did not have authority/permission to vote for independence, and no vote from Delaware who were tied and split among themselves on yes or no.

Next, a vote of Congress was needed.

South Carolina changed their minds on July 2, and voted for independence. In the Pennsylvania delegation, two men abstained, allowing the delegation to vote three-to-two in favor of independence. The tie in the Delaware delegation was broken by the timely arrival of another rep who voted for independence. The New York delegation abstained once again, since they were still not authorized to vote for independence.

The resolution for independence had been adopted with twelve affirmative votes and one abstention. New York did get approval to vote a week later.

Future president John Adams thought that the vote for independence would be commemorated and celebrated on the date that the act was finalized (July 2).

Congress then took some days to studying the draft more closely. And, ended up changed words, wording, and deleting about a fourth of the text that was critical of slavery. Even though a slave holder from Virginia, Thomas Jefferson was annoyed and resented the deletions. On July 4th the almost final was approved and sent to the printer for copying and distribution.

It would quickly be revised a wee bit, as Congress changed the wording on July 19 to reflect that it was a unanimous declaration of all 13 states signed by all.

In History there are two "schools" on it. Not all of the 56 delegates/representatives were present on July 4, or even July 19....only 2/3rd's. It would take until August 2 or after to get all 56 signatories to sign.

There is an unofficial "movement" afoot calling the observation and holiday "Independence Day" rather than the "4th of July."

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 Post subject: Re: July 4th
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Mick......thanks for the specifics!....... ;)

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