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 Post subject: A Model 1879 Cartridge Belt , Prairie Belt Style
PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:50 pm 
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Tan canvas body, 2-9/16 inches wide, 43 inches in length, 10-3/4 inch leather tongue. Three brass rings. Marked WATERVLIET ARSENAL and A.R.SMITH on one side of tongue and the inspector’s initials J. G(?) . on other side.


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 Post subject: Re: A Model 1879 Cartridge Belt , Prairie Belt Style
PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 11:23 am 
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Here's mine! "Fair weather Christian prairie belt" made by Hank Kluin for my '78/'79 9th Cav Officer's impression.
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 Post subject: Re: A Model 1879 Cartridge Belt , Prairie Belt Style
PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 12:28 am 
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I made this Prairie Belt a few years back.. Being poor, instead of buying things, I make them.
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Lloyd.............I don't believe you.......you'd make it if you owned Tandy Leather Factory Co and 200 illegals to make it for you. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: A Model 1879 Cartridge Belt , Prairie Belt Style
PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:50 pm 
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Are you sure that's not a model '76?

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Tan canvas body, 2-9/16 inches wide, 43 inches in length, 10-3/4 inch leather tongue. Three brass rings. Marked WATERVLIET ARSENAL and A.R.SMITH on one side of tongue and the inspector’s initials J. G(?) . on other side.

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 Post subject: Re: A Model 1879 Cartridge Belt , Prairie Belt Style
PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:34 pm 
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Yes that is considered a model 1876 cartridge belt type 4 with the rings


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 Post subject: Re: A Model 1879 Cartridge Belt , Prairie Belt Style
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Are the rings for saber slings?.......on second look, they're not far enough apart. I'm not familiar enough with infantry equipment.......but again not spaced far enough for braces.......help me out here?????? :o

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 Post subject: Re: A Model 1879 Cartridge Belt , Prairie Belt Style
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Mule Man wrote:
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Are the rings for saber slings?.......on second look, they're not far enough apart. I'm not familiar enough with infantry equipment.......but again not spaced far enough for braces.......help me out here?????? :o



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The rings were for the 1878 triangular bayonet scabbard and the 1878 trowel bayonet scabbard
Here is my triangular bayonet 1878 scabbard


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 Post subject: Re: A Model 1879 Cartridge Belt , Prairie Belt Style
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Of course....that's make sense......what little knowledge I have is mostly about cavalry.......mostly pre-Civil War.

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 Post subject: Re: A Model 1879 Cartridge Belt , Prairie Belt Style
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As said, the OP is a Pattern 1876, Third Type, Prairie Belt with the 1879 Infantry Modification. Because the
Army was in such a hurry to finalize design and deploy this Belt, they apparently overlooked the fact that there was no adopted pattern holster in use with a loop large enough to slide over the Pattern 1876 Belt. Hence the various experimental modifications to the Belt through the early 1880's. These belts remained in use until the Mills Belts, including the Pattern 1885 Prairiie Beit, and the Pattern 1881, third type, Holster were deployed, which solved the problem.

Until then the Cavalry intended the Pattern 1876 Belt to be used with the Sabre Belts, holsters and 45 Colt ammo boxes/pouches in use during this period. Of course the troops did not want to wear two belt rigs if one would do, especially in the high temperature frontier. So many unofficial field modifications were made to these Pattern 1876 Belts (and holsters) to accommodate holsters and related accouterments. Thus unmolested examples of this belt are difficult to find today.

Pictured below is a Pattern 1876 Prairie Belt in unaltered condition shown with a Pattern 1872 Metcalf Belt rig, including a type II Pattern 1881 Holster, a Colt Factory restored Ainsworth Cavalry and period ammunition.

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